St. Mackem of Kansas wrote:Because he talks crap!

for instance.....he thought Button was not good enough for his beloved BAR team, and spoke long and often about it to the press...shortly before Button wiped his ass with Jackie boy.....

NO one in against straight talkers when they talk sense, but when they are b/s'ers like jakie boy and eddie the ego irvine, people just dont want to hear.

That would presumably be the same Button who's won 11 GP's, the Indy 500 and the Indycar championship I suppose?

And don't compare Jacques with Eddie b..... Irvine please.

Don't forget the WDC which he hasn't yet won.

highlander2 wrote:Don't forget the WDC which he hasn't yet won.

Quite!

However, my point is not to slag off Button, as I think he's a good driver, and still a potentially great one.

Looking back at 2003, Villeneuve said nothing about Button that wasn't a straight fact. He merely stated that he had yet to prove his worth and would have to earn his (Villeneuve's) respect. That he did, and Jacques was quite open about it. As for some of his comments regarding Schumacher, I believe he has said something along the lines of 'taking risks with your own life is ok, but when you risk someone else's it goes beyond the bounds of what's acceptable'. Fair enough I reckon.

Seems to me to be one of the few out there with reasonable intelligence.

Oh, and as for wiping the floor with him, I don't think so. Qualifying was 8-6 in Button's favour, and points 12-6 (also in Button's favour). Not exactly light years apart then, and when you take into account Jacques' 8 mechanical retirements, its even less - their grid averages over the year are almost identical. It's reasonable to assume then, that if Jacques had stayed for 2004 his reputation would have been restored somewhat.